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"God helps those who help themselves"

Tuesday, February 26th, 2008

I’m sure you have heard this post’s title before.

The idea is that, supposedly, praying for things to happen, for the object of your desire to “fall in your lap” by magic doesn’t work. Instead, you’re supposed to try, and try hard, and then God will help you.

While I believe that telling people to, pardon the expression, “move their asses”, instead of just sitting in prayer and waiting for things to happen, is a good piece of advice, I wonder why more people — including believers — don’t notice the obvious dishonesty implicit in it.

First, there’s the unconscious realization of a fact: miracles don’t happen. At least true miracles in the “magical” sense. Much like the way people pray for a disease to “get better” (which can happen) but not for a limb to grow back (which can’t), most believers, these days, when they think of miracles, they think about approximations of Jesus’ (Caucasian!) face in slices of pizza, finding a lucky parking space in a crowded place, or someone changing their mind to their advantage. Not “biblical-like” miracles. So, since they know “magic” doesn’t work, they teach that you have to try, and only then will God help you. In other words, first you make sure it’s naturally possible, and only then do you ask God — who is supposedly all-powerful — for it.

Second, this is an utterly unfair double standard. If you succeed, it was God’s doing. Praise the Lord! If you fail, however, either “God has a better plan”, or, more often, it was simply your fault. God automatically gets the credit for any successes, but not the blame for any failures. Like always, anyone would spot the obvious unfairness of it… if we weren’t talking about religion, a subject that prevents most otherwise rational people from spotting parallels, contradictions, or errors of logic in general. (we’re talking about minds, after all, that find no problem in the “God exists because the Bible says so; the Bible is true because it’s the word of God” statement…)

Obama on religion

Thursday, February 21st, 2008

[...] given the increasing diversity of America’s population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.

And even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson’s, or Al Sharpton’s? Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount – a passage that is so radical that it’s doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application? So before we get carried away, let’s read our bibles. Folks haven’t been reading their bibles.

This brings me to my second point. Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal, rather than religion-specific, values. It requires that their proposals be subject to argument, and amenable to reason. I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons, but if I seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church or evoke God’s will. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.

Now this is going to be difficult for some who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, as many evangelicals do. But in a pluralistic democracy, we have no choice. Politics depends on our ability to persuade each other of common aims based on a common reality. It involves the compromise, the art of what’s possible. At some fundamental level, religion does not allow for compromise. It’s the art of the impossible. If God has spoken, then followers are expected to live up to God’s edicts, regardless of the consequences. To base one’s life on such uncompromising commitments may be sublime, but to base our policy making on such commitments would be a dangerous thing. And if you doubt that, let me give you an example.

We all know the story of Abraham and Isaac. Abraham is ordered by God to offer up his only son, and without argument, he takes Isaac to the mountaintop, binds him to an altar, and raises his knife, prepared to act as God has commanded.

Of course, in the end God sends down an angel to intercede at the very last minute, and Abraham passes God’s test of devotion.

But it’s fair to say that if any of us leaving this church saw Abraham on a roof of a building raising his knife, we would, at the very least, call the police and expect the Department of Children and Family Services to take Isaac away from Abraham.

Source: ‘Call to Renewal’ Keynote Address, 2006

More than good enough for me. Pity I’m not American, or I would, for the first time in my life, vote for a guy and be proud of it. (I’m assuming he’ll beat Hillary, by the way, which seems increasingly likely, according to the latest results.)

Contrast this with Mike “rewrite the Constitution so it conforms to the Bible” Huckabee, Mitt “secularism is a religion” Romney (yes, I realize he’s out), or John “Roe v. Wade should be overturned” McCain.

(To be fair, McCain seems to be by far the lesser evil amongst Republicans (which admittedly isn’t saying much, given who his current main opponent is), and would certainly be an improvement over Bush… but, then again, who wouldn’t? :) Unless an oddly convenient “terrorist” attack allows Bush to institute martial law and remain in power, things are sure to improve — not just for the U.S., but for the entire world — after November, regardless who wins the election.)

EDIT: removed the bold font emphasis on the original text. Sorry about that. ;)

90 day Jane

Tuesday, February 12th, 2008

Like Hemant and Shnakepup, I am convinced that the latest idiocy, “90 day Jane“, is nothing but another dishonest attempt by the religious to fight the “rise of eeeeevil atheism”.

Consider her description:

I am going to kill myself in 90 days. What else should i say? This blog is not a cry for help or even to get attention. It’s simply a public record of my last 90 days in existence. I’m not depressed and nothing extremely horrible has lead me to this decision. But, does it really have to? I mean, as an atheist I feel life has no greater purpose. My generation has had no great depression, no great war and our biggest obstacle is beating Halo 3.

“… as an atheist I feel life has no greater purpose”? Gee, that sounds just like what theists love to say about atheists… and what atheists either don’t say, or say literally; in other words, the lack of a “greater” purpose just means that we don’t have someone telling us what to do, so we have to (responsibility! scary!) decide for ourselves, come up with a purpose on our own.

Quoting Shnakepup:

Expect “Jane” to start laying the nihilism and hedonism on thick, all the while spouting off about how pointless it all is. Then, closer to the due date, we’ll see more and more posts featuring Jane reconsidering her godless, wasteful existence , and pondering if maybe there’s something more. Cue religious friend who sets her straight on the lie of atheism, and who tells her all the church has to offer in it’s place. Instead of killing herself on Day 90, we’ll see her changing her mind and deciding to live her life with Jesus! Warm fuzzy music plays and everybody learns a valuable lesson.

Indeed. Now, I wonder… as an atheist, I would never do something like this (say, “faking” a deconversion). Why? Because it would be dishonest, and the same love of truth that makes me an atheist prevents me from even considering something like this. The belief in “saving souls” for brownie points in heaven, even if you have to cheat, lie, and hurt people to do it, is, apparently, something very typical in evangelical Christianity.

EDIT: it was just an experiment, after all. Either that, or they aborted it because they can’t follow their plan to talk about the emptiness of atheism for 3 months and then “find Jesus” on day 90, because we were on to them on day 4. Nothing to see here, folks.

Presidential Candidates and Evolution

Monday, January 14th, 2008

Alonzo and vjack have already blogged in more detail about this, so, as there’s really nothing to add to them in a serious way…

… I have, naturally, to invoke Monty Python. :)

Now, some people — even non-creationists (a.k.a. people who don’t ignore evidence just because it contradicts a book written by Bronze Age desert nomads who could only imagine supernatural explanations for anything they didn’t know, and who thought the world was just a few generations old) are saying that people will be electing a president, not a biologist, so the candidates’ stance on evolution doesn’t really matter.

In other words, they’re free to believe in something really absurd, ignoring all the evidence to the contrary, but “otherwise, they’re perfectly all right”.

Remember the classic mattress sketch?

Groom: Er yes. We’d like to buy a bed…a double bed…about fifty pounds?
Verity: Oh no, I’m afraid not, sir. Our cheapest bed is eight hundred pounds, sir.
Groom: Eight hundred pounds!
Lambert: Or, er, perhaps I should have explained. Mr Verity does tend to exaggerate, so every figure he gives you will be ten times too high. Otherwise he’s perfectly all right, perfectly ha, ha, ha.

and, later,

Verity: Lambert! Will you show these twenty good people the, er, dog kennels, please?
Lambert: Mm? Certainly.
Groom: Dog kennel? No, no, no, mattresses, mattresses!
Verity: Oh no, no you have to say dog kennel to Mr Lambert because if you say mattress he puts a bag over his head. I should have explained. Apart from that he’s really all right.

See what I mean? It’s not “really all right”. In at least one thing, they’re showing that they’re either a) completely nuts, or b) cowardly pandering to those who are. They’re unwilling to think critically, to consider the available evidence, and to ask the experts on the subject… or they’re dishonest, cowardly, and devoid of any integrity.

And you want those guys to run your country?

Dawkins on faith

Monday, December 24th, 2007

I [...] think that basing your beliefs upon blind faith rather than upon evidence is potentially very dangerous, because you can’t argue against it.

- Richard Dawkins (in an interview)

Pope: "Atheism has led to the greatest forms of cruelty…"

Thursday, December 13th, 2007

Atheism has led to the greatest forms of cruelty

Source: MattBors.com

Are belief and unbelief morally neutral?

Wednesday, December 12th, 2007

Alonzo Fyfe of Atheist Ethicist wrote, more than once, that

The proposition, “At least one god exists” and the proposition “It is not the case that at least one god exists” are both morally neutral.

Taken at face value, they certainly are, and nowhere in this post will I imply something like “you can’t be a good person if you believe in God” (many believers, on the other hand, love to frequently insult atheists by claiming the opposite…). However…

Imagine the following scenario (I think I read a similar example somewhere, maybe in The End of Faith, but I’m not at home right now and can’t confirm it): there’s a school bus driver whose bus’s tires are long past inspection time. People at his school have warned him of that, but he believes that his tires are “blessed” and will be just fine, that they don’t need changing. His belief is pleasing to him, even comforts him. The facts that they don’t grip the road so well, or that they look old, or that so many people have warned him about it (but can’t force his hand since that would be “disrespecting his belief”) don’t make a difference; he has “faith” in his ability, in his bus, and in its tires.

Then, one day, a tire blows up. There is a big accident, and dozens of children die. Is that driver responsible for it? Was he guilty of the deaths of so many schoolchildren? Was he morally wrong? Even though he loved children and didn’t wish them any harm?

Of course he was. In fact, he would have been morally wrong (and culpable) even if, somehow, he was lucky and no serious accident ever happened until his retirement.

He was guilty of ignoring evidence and clinging to an unsubstantiated belief, just because it made him “feel good”. He was guilty of being absolutely certain, when there was no reason for it. He was guilty of putting a cherished belief above reality. He was guilty of being irrational, of being irresponsible, of being intellectually dishonest, both with himself and with reality.

Honesty is not just not lying to other people, or not cheating on your taxes, or something that needs to involve other people. Honesty also includes being honest with yourself, and trying to be aware of reality to the best of your ability, instead of deliberately ignoring it, ignoring evidence and facts, just because they are somehow “displeasing” or would force you to abandon a cherished belief.

The point of that story is that the driver was irresponsible, and morally culpable, because he chose to dishonestly ignore reality. He had no right to close his eyes to a fact he didn’t like, to be intentionally blind, and to put others in danger because of it. This is regardless of whether an accident actually happened.

Faith — defined as having one or more beliefs that are unsubstantiated by evidence, and, often, despite contradicting evidence — is morally wrong, because it is intellectually dishonest… and potentially dangerous. After all, if you don’t require a shred of evidence to be 100% certain of a belief, then you can potentially believe anything. And many people do.

And, if faith is morally wrong, then belief in a god — which can’t happen without faith — is also morally wrong. Even if the bus driver happens not to have an accident, or if the believer happens not to harm anyone.

"The Fred Phelps of 1000 BC" :)

Tuesday, December 11th, 2007

A commenter to a post called The Church of Hate at Pharyngula wrote:

Deuteronomy orders that disobedient children be taken to the city gate and stoned to death.

Sounds pretty drastic and these days that would get you a long jail sentence.

What struck me as odd, no one has ever found piles of tiny bones at the gates of ancient Jewish cities. Nor AFAIK, has anyone ever done anything like this.

My best guess. When whoever was writing Deuteronomy was frothing at the mouth and ranting and raving, the average Israeli just shrugged their shoulders, said what a nutcase, and ignored him. Maybe he was the Fred Phelps of 1000 BC.

For some reason, I loved it. :)

Belief System Selector – my results

Tuesday, December 11th, 2007

1. Secular Humanism (100%)
2. Unitarian Universalism (93%)
3. Non-theist (78%)
4. Theravada Buddhism (75%)
5. Liberal Quakers (71%)
6. Neo-Pagan (60%)
7. Mainline – Liberal Christian Protestants (53%)
8. New Age (44%)
9. Taoism (41%)
10. Reform Judaism (37%)
11. Mahayana Buddhism (36%)
12. Orthodox Quaker (31%)
13. New Thought (27%)
14. Bahai (24%)
15. Sikhism (24%)
16. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (21%)
17. Scientology (21%)
18. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (18%)
19. Jainism (18%)
20. Mainline – Conservative Christian Protestant (14%)
21. Eastern Orthodox (12%)
22. Hinduism (12%)
23. Islam (12%)
24. Orthodox Judaism (12%)
25. Roman Catholic (12%)
26. Seventh Day Adventist (9%)
27. Jehovah’s Witness (6%)

It’s a bit strange to see absurdities like Christian “Science” and Scientology in those positions, as I’d say they’re even more obviously bullshit-infested than, say, Eastern Orthodox or Hinduism (and that’s saying a lot), though that’s probably because they agree with me on something… no idea what, though. :) At least, the test got number one right, so it’s a start. :) It is a test more focused on beliefs instead of lack of them, however, as the phrasing of the questions shows.

What about you? What does the Belief System Selector say about your beliefs? :)

The relief of religious deconversion

Friday, December 7th, 2007

Responding to No Way’s comment after I mentioned my relief when I stopped being a Christian:

Now that intriques me.  I would love to see that post sometime soon.  After all, if I stopped believing the feeling would be the complete opposite of relief.

I’ve written about it in the past (interestingly, in one of this blog’s earliest posts, How I’ve become an atheist), but I’ll try to answer your question specifically: why the relief?

Well, first consider this: what if Christians are wrong and Muslims are right? If that is so, Allah will send you to “the fire”. Scared yet? There are so many religions (and variations of each religion) out there that the odds of picking up the right one are very, very small. And most of them say their gods are “jealous”, so you can’t pick several at the same time. The fact that you’re a Christian and not a Jew or Muslim or Hindu, or that you’re, say, a Protestant instead of a Catholic, depends just on one thing: where you were born. And while you may have a more liberal theology (“anyone who accepts Jesus is saved”, or even “God wouldn’t send anyone to hell, even though it says he does in the holy books”), that’s a relatively recent thing, and you’re probably in the minority, not to mention that the holy books don’t agree with you. So, statistically, if there is a god or gods and there is a hell, then each individual has very good odds of ending up in it — and of that happening just by chance, because you were born in the “wrong” place and raised in the “wrong” faith. To me, that would be very, very scary indeed, and losing that fear would certainly be a relief. Most believers (including myself, when I was one) avoid living in constant fear of their statistically probable eternal damnation simply by not thinking about this at all; their faith is the “right” one, automatically, because they were raised in it, and it’s “obvious”, so, end of story.

However, my own relief was more related to intellectual honesty; I was always inquisitive, with “the soul of a scientist”, so to say, and only managed to keep my faith by not thinking critically about it, by stopping myself whenever I started to consider the implications, before going “too far” — and, with time, the lines of thought I had to avoid became more and more in number. I knew, subconsciously, that if I thought about it, I would lose my belief, and come to the natural conclusion: that all religions are man-made, self-contradictory, and teach morally wrong — sometimes even repugnant — things. And that the reasons I had for not believing in every other religion could apply perfectly to my own. So, my mind served me so well at school, at college, at work, and to solve problems regularly in life, but it had to be “chained” for me to keep a belief that would not survive a good, hard look? Can you imagine how dishonest, how “fake” that made me feel? To have a part of my life that I had to constantly avoid thinking rationally about? To have two separate standards of reasoning, one I applied to reality and life, and the other to a belief that I just “had” to keep… or else? And yet I blamed myself, not the belief — because I had been taught so.

It’s as Martin Luther said, reason is the enemy of faith. I just disagree with him on which side to pick.

Does anyone ACTUALLY "hate God"?

Thursday, December 6th, 2007

Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

- Psalm 139:21-22 (King James Version)

No, wait! I’m not going to use those verses in the way you are probably thinking (the Bible incites hatred, etc.).

That would be too easy. :)

Instead, I’ll address the “them… that hate thee” part. As this post’s title says, does anyone actually hate God (“God” meaning, here, the Judeo-Christian one)?

Now, theists are fond of saying that atheists hate God (which a simply dictionary definition would correct — hello!? we don’t believe there is one!?), or that we know, deep inside, that God exists, but are too arrogant to submit (which is actually insulting — how would they like to be told that they don’t really believe in their God, but enjoy too much being seen as “highly moral”?), but I’m not talking about those obvious errors. No, I’m talking about Really. Hating. God.

That concept presupposes that one does believe in God (and, again, I’m talking about the monotheistic, all-powerful Judeo-Christian creator deity people worship and pray to, not about any form of deism or pantheism), but, somehow, for some reason, hates him.

Does that make any sense? I find that very contradictory, not to mention potentially suicidal: so you believe that this omnipotent being is holding all the cards, can do whatever he pleases with you, including damning you for eternity… but he just wants to be loved, worshipped and believed in… you do believe he exists, and yet you hate him?

Now, my question, both to atheists and to those without the “a”… do you think that there are actually people like that? That someone, out there, actually “hates God”?

Thinking about it, I can imagine a few possibilities. A believer who gets the short end of the stick, so to say, might temporarily hate and curse God for the current injustice — without disbelieving for an instant. But that would probably pass soon, and he’d feel guilty and ashamed afterwards.

The only other possibility I can imagine is a Satanist — not a member of LaVey‘s “Church of Satan”, who wouldn’t actually believe in God (or Satan) as entities, or a Black Metal fan, or an atheist who enjoyed annoying believers. No, a real Satanist, who believed God and the Devil were real, but somehow identified more with ol’ Lucifer than with Yahweh, and chose the former’s side. Of course, unless that person believed the Bible to be his enemy’s “propaganda”, he’d know that his side was destined to lose… but, who knows, maybe some people are like that.

To conclude: I’ve never heard someone say anything like “I believe in God, but I hate him”. But I’d like to hear your thoughts. Have you ever met or known of someone like that?

EDIT: and, please, no semantic games, such as “everyone who does X hates God”. I’m talking about conscious belief and hatred.

The "it seems designed for us, really!" error

Tuesday, December 4th, 2007

Continuing the argument started in the “The one in a million” fallacy post… as commenters immediately noticed (and you’ll note, from the last paragraph in that post, that I saw it too), each possible result — such as a “nice round number” — is as likely to occur randomly as any other, yes, but the point here is that, when talking about life in the universe, supposedly only one result could cause life. So, the fact that we do have such a “special” result should mean that some conscious design was involved, right?

There are several ways to approach this one. One of them is this: just because a result is “unlikely”, it doesn’t mean that it’s impossible; after all, all of them are equally unlikely, but every time you roll the dice, you will get one result, and it wasn’t any more miraculous than the last time. The fact that we are here, alive, and arguing about this is proof enough that it happened at least once, so, after a result happens randomly, it is absurd to consider it “too unlikely to have happened by chance”, since, well, it just did

Who knows, maybe there are, or have been and will be, many “failed” universes — at least, “failed” in terms of being able to support (our kind of) life — out there. There are some hypotheses about multiple universes, which I have not investigated, but, still, they sound less “wild” and “fantastic” than a divine creator.

But if multiple universes sounds too Marvel Comics for you :) , just consider this one: is the universe we live in actually fit for life? Only if you consider an incredibly huge — much, much bigger than the whole Earth — arid desert with but a 2-foot puddle of water “fit for fish”.

Yes, any considerations of “this universe seems designed to support life” might have made sense in the Middle Ages, with an Earth-centric view of the universe… but now? This universe is incredibly, absolutely, hostile to life (at least, carbon-based life, as we know it), and this incredibly insignificant little planet is an exception… and not even a complete one, as more than half of it is hostile to life as well — indeed, we can only live in many parts of it due to human ingenuity and science, not because it was “just perfect” for us.

It’s normal to consider that this planet is the whole universe — hell, it’s normal for many to consider their neighborhood the whole universe! — but if you think about the real vastness (and age) of it, and about what virtually all of it is like, then to say that it “looks designed for us” sounds absolutely medieval.

This reminds me of the interviews at the end of the The God Who Wasn’t There documentary, where one interviewee mentions that, if this universe looks designed for something, that’s designed for forming black holes, not life. Are we to assume that God loves black holes, or even that God is a black hole, and created a universe to honor him…?