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		<title>California&#8217;s Proposition 8: Freedom and Power</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pedro Timóteo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading the comments on Hemant&#8217;s Questions for Anyone Who Voted for Proposition 8, I found, naturally (considering the blog), that most people supported equality, but there were a couple of people who thought that they were acting morally when trying to ban gay marriage. One comment included the following: I do believe that legalizing gay [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the comments on Hemant&#8217;s <a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/5582/questions-for-christians-who-voted-for-proposition-8/">Questions for Anyone Who Voted for Proposition 8</a>, I found, naturally (considering the blog), that most people supported equality, but there were a couple of people who thought that they were acting morally when trying to ban gay marriage. One comment included the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>I do believe that legalizing gay marriage would directly affect religious freedoms–all in the guise of “equal rights”.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Am I a bigot for supporting what I feel to be morally right?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I do believe that passing this amendment protects religious freedom. </p></blockquote>
<p>However, that person, though possibly unaware of the fact, has a problem with <i>definitions</i>. Because it&#8217;s not about (his) freedom at all, but about (his) <b>power</b>.</p>
<p>I think it was Richard Stallman who once wrote that the difference between a freedom and a power is that the former is being able to decide something which affects mostly <i>yourself</i>, and a power is to be able to decide something that affects mainly <i>others</i>. Now, when you, a religious heterosexual, can (and do) decide what others (gays) can and cannot do, which is the case? It takes an especially convulted and twisted mind &#8212; not to mention incredibly selfish and egocentric &#8212; to claim that whether gays can marry or not affects <i>you</i> more than it does <i>them</i><sup><a href="http://www.wayofthemind.org/2008/11/08/californias-proposition-8-freedom-and-power/#footnote_0_413" id="identifier_0_413" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="e.g. &amp;#8220;not oppressing them hurts my feelings, so whether to oppress them or not is all about me.&amp;#8221;">1</a></sup>. To decide that they can&#8217;t marry is not a question of your freedom, but of you having <i>power</i> over <i>their</i> freedoms.</p>
<p>Also, losing a power you once had does <i>not</i> constitute a &#8220;loss of your freedom&#8221;, because none of the latter was affected. Christians love to claim that their &#8220;religious freedom&#8221; is being attacked, but no such thing has ever happened (unless, possibly, in Muslim theocracies), because their <em>freedoms</em> are unaffected; what they are losing is the <i>power</i> they&#8217;re used to having &#8212; and which they always had, through history, unjustly, and often through physical force.</p>
<hr/>Copyright &copy; 2012 <strong><a href="http://www.wayofthemind.org">Way of the Mind</a></strong> <ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_413" class="footnote">e.g. &#8220;not oppressing them hurts my feelings, so whether to oppress them or not is <i>all</i> about me.&#8221;</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>I don&#8217;t like Microsoft&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pedro Timóteo</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230; so when do I take their side? Why, when they&#8217;re attacked by homophobic fundamentalist Christians, of course! You can&#8217;t make stuff like this up (any emphasis is mine): A black conservative Christian pastor of an evangelical megachurch has vowed to take over Microsoft by packing it with new shareholders who will vote against the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; so when do I take their side? Why, when they&#8217;re attacked by <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/16/wmicro116.xml">homophobic fundamentalist Christians</a>, of course! <img src='http://www.wayofthemind.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t make stuff like this up (any emphasis is mine):</p>
<blockquote><p> A black conservative Christian pastor of an evangelical megachurch has vowed to take over Microsoft by packing it with new shareholders who will <strong>vote against the company&#8217;s policy of championing gay rights</strong>.</p>
<p>He told Microsoft executives at a shareholders&#8217; meeting last week that he would be their &#8220;worst nightmare&#8221; if they continued to defy him.</p>
<p>Antioch Bible Church attracts around 3,500 worshippers for its services and Mr Hutcherson is a powerful figure in the Christian conservative movement. </p></blockquote>
<p>And&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p> An advocate of a &#8220;biblical stance&#8221; against divorce and homosexuality, Mr Hutcherson, 55, is asking millions of evangelical activists, as well as Orthodox Jewish and other allies, to buy up Microsoft shares and demand a return to traditional values.</p>
<p>Microsoft, he declares, will be just the first company targeted in an escalation of the culture wars between evangelicals and corporate America.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are 256 Fortune 500 companies alone pouring <strong>millions upon millions of dollars into pushing the homosexual agenda</strong>,&#8221; he told The Daily Telegraph.</p>
<p>&#8220;I consider myself a warrior for Christ. Microsoft don&#8217;t scare me. I got God with me.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not to mention, of course&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I told them that you need to work with me or we will put a firestorm on you like you have never seen in you life because I am your worst nightmare. I am a black man with a righteous cause with a whole host of powerful white people behind me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr Hutcherson&#8217;s office is decorated with the heads of deer, elk and a buffalo – &#8220;<strong>when I run into animals, I kill them</strong> and bring them home and eat them&#8221; – as well as invitations to the White House and <strong>signed pictures of himself with President George W. Bush</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>It boggles the mind. Any sane mind, that is. I&#8217;m sure there are those out there to whom this is perfectly normal&#8230;</p>
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