Comments on: Religion and the Moral Zeitgeist http://www.wayofthemind.org/2008/04/11/religion-and-the-moral-zeitgeist/ Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:10:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: No Way http://www.wayofthemind.org/2008/04/11/religion-and-the-moral-zeitgeist/#comment-43882 No Way Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:36:42 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2008/04/11/religion-and-the-moral-zeitgeist/#comment-43882 "The morality in, say, the Christian Bible is nothing special for its time; not more enlightened, not more advanced or progressive..." I must whole-heartedly disagree. I do not think one could find a more "special", "enlightened", "advanced", or "progressive" set of moral teachings than those of Jesus. Loving your enemy as yourself, forgiving seventy-seven times, touching the untouchable, healing the unworthy, speaking with samaritan women, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" even as they kill him. Where else have you found this? “The morality in, say, the Christian Bible is nothing special for its time; not more enlightened, not more advanced or progressive…”

I must whole-heartedly disagree. I do not think one could find a more “special”, “enlightened”, “advanced”, or “progressive” set of moral teachings than those of Jesus. Loving your enemy as yourself, forgiving seventy-seven times, touching the untouchable, healing the unworthy, speaking with samaritan women, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do” even as they kill him. Where else have you found this?

]]> By: Pedro Timóteo http://www.wayofthemind.org/2008/04/11/religion-and-the-moral-zeitgeist/#comment-41083 Pedro Timóteo Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:51:33 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2008/04/11/religion-and-the-moral-zeitgeist/#comment-41083 Jeter, saying "you're wrong, and you'd know why if you had done any research" doesn't really mean anything, you know. Anyone can always say that, without providing any examples or any data. Please tell me, if you're up to it, exactly what my "errors" are, and why. And without calling me ignorant or a liar, if possible. Jeter, saying “you’re wrong, and you’d know why if you had done any research” doesn’t really mean anything, you know. Anyone can always say that, without providing any examples or any data.

Please tell me, if you’re up to it, exactly what my “errors” are, and why. And without calling me ignorant or a liar, if possible.

]]> By: Jeter Livingston http://www.wayofthemind.org/2008/04/11/religion-and-the-moral-zeitgeist/#comment-41082 Jeter Livingston Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:41:01 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2008/04/11/religion-and-the-moral-zeitgeist/#comment-41082 I wonder if you have ever read Christian Scriptures. The statement,"The morality in, say, the Christian Bible is nothing special for its time; not more enlightened, not more advanced or progressive (do believers really think that, before the 10 Commandments, everyone thought that murder was a pretty neat idea?), not “radical” in any way." is blatantly not true, had you taken the time to do objective research. Your ignorance also comes through in the following paragraph: Of course, there are some who do cling, to a degree, to parts of Biblical morality. That is why, for example, churches before the American Civil War opposed emancipation; after all, weren’t people of color the descendents of Ham, condemned to slavery in Genesis? Wasn’t slavery Biblical? Didn’t Paul command slaves to obey their masters?" Perhaps it would do you some good to read some history and some biblical studies before you pontificate on things you obviously haven't studied. That is, if you are trying to be objective, which I suspect is not the case at all. Say it loudly, say it often and someone will believe it. I wonder if you have ever read Christian Scriptures. The statement,”The morality in, say, the Christian Bible is nothing special for its time; not more enlightened, not more advanced or progressive (do believers really think that, before the 10 Commandments, everyone thought that murder was a pretty neat idea?), not “radical” in any way.” is blatantly not true, had you taken the time to do objective research. Your ignorance also comes through in the following paragraph: Of course, there are some who do cling, to a degree, to parts of Biblical morality. That is why, for example, churches before the American Civil War opposed emancipation; after all, weren’t people of color the descendents of Ham, condemned to slavery in Genesis? Wasn’t slavery Biblical? Didn’t Paul command slaves to obey their masters?” Perhaps it would do you some good to read some history and some biblical studies before you pontificate on things you obviously haven’t studied. That is, if you are trying to be objective, which I suspect is not the case at all. Say it loudly, say it often and someone will believe it.

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