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		<title>By: Efrique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Efrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You are correct, Jesus never spoke against homosexuality.  It is mentioned several times in the old testament though and whether Christians are under the old testament law is a matter of debate of which noone can know the true answer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Would you agree that one of the following must be true, even though you aren't certain which one:
(i) old testament law applies;  or
(ii) old testament law does not apply  ?

If old testament law applies, it applies. You don't get to pick and choose the bits you like. Right down to stoning disobedient children, and if a mob turns up wanting to have sex with your male guest, you get to hand them your daughter to do with as they wish. No wearing two different kinds of cloth together either (cotton-wool blends are anathema, damn, there goes the wardrobe). Oh, and god loves sacrifice, except that no he doesn't, oh wait, yes he does, good luck on figuring out which it is supposed to be, and whatever you do, don't get it wrong.

The reason that "whether Christians are under the old testament law is a matter of debate" is simply because Jesus said both that the old testament law definitely applies and that it definitely does not. So the "debate" is over which time he was wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You are correct, Jesus never spoke against homosexuality.  It is mentioned several times in the old testament though and whether Christians are under the old testament law is a matter of debate of which noone can know the true answer.</p></blockquote>
<p>Would you agree that one of the following must be true, even though you aren&#8217;t certain which one:<br />
(i) old testament law applies;  or<br />
(ii) old testament law does not apply  ?</p>
<p>If old testament law applies, it applies. You don&#8217;t get to pick and choose the bits you like. Right down to stoning disobedient children, and if a mob turns up wanting to have sex with your male guest, you get to hand them your daughter to do with as they wish. No wearing two different kinds of cloth together either (cotton-wool blends are anathema, damn, there goes the wardrobe). Oh, and god loves sacrifice, except that no he doesn&#8217;t, oh wait, yes he does, good luck on figuring out which it is supposed to be, and whatever you do, don&#8217;t get it wrong.</p>
<p>The reason that &#8220;whether Christians are under the old testament law is a matter of debate&#8221; is simply because Jesus said both that the old testament law definitely applies and that it definitely does not. So the &#8220;debate&#8221; is over which time he was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: No Way</title>
		<link>http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/11/19/i-dont-like-microsoft/#comment-33387</link>
		<dc:creator>No Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct, Jesus never spoke against homosexuality.  It is mentioned several times in the old testament though and whether Christians are under the old testament law is a matter of debate of which noone can know the true answer.

If you were implying that materialism might be the World's biggest problem I would be inclined to agree with you.  That said, it can easily be argued that Jesus was not actually telling the young ruler to sell all his possessions (if we are talking about the same story in the Bible).

My take on the interaction between Jesus and this young ruler is this.  He asked (paraphrased) "how do I get to heaven?"  and Jesus basically repeated his core stance "love the Lord your God with ....".  The man said, "I do those things" and Jesus, in an effort to show the man that God was not truly the most important thing in his life said, "ok, then prove it.  Sell that stuff and let's go"  From the man's response it is obvious that his possessions are actually more important to him.

That said, people of all three Abrahamic religions that seek to create law and control others instead of developing personal relationships with God get my vote for the World's leading danger.  After all, their power struggles are just another form of materialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct, Jesus never spoke against homosexuality.  It is mentioned several times in the old testament though and whether Christians are under the old testament law is a matter of debate of which noone can know the true answer.</p>
<p>If you were implying that materialism might be the World&#8217;s biggest problem I would be inclined to agree with you.  That said, it can easily be argued that Jesus was not actually telling the young ruler to sell all his possessions (if we are talking about the same story in the Bible).</p>
<p>My take on the interaction between Jesus and this young ruler is this.  He asked (paraphrased) &#8220;how do I get to heaven?&#8221;  and Jesus basically repeated his core stance &#8220;love the Lord your God with &#8230;.&#8221;.  The man said, &#8220;I do those things&#8221; and Jesus, in an effort to show the man that God was not truly the most important thing in his life said, &#8220;ok, then prove it.  Sell that stuff and let&#8217;s go&#8221;  From the man&#8217;s response it is obvious that his possessions are actually more important to him.</p>
<p>That said, people of all three Abrahamic religions that seek to create law and control others instead of developing personal relationships with God get my vote for the World&#8217;s leading danger.  After all, their power struggles are just another form of materialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedro Timóteo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro Timóteo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention that Jesus never spoke against homosexuality, but he &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; tell people to sell their posessions and give everything to the poor. Yet, according to the religious right, the world's biggest problem is... homosexuality and gay marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention that Jesus never spoke against homosexuality, but he <i>did</i> tell people to sell their posessions and give everything to the poor. Yet, according to the religious right, the world&#8217;s biggest problem is&#8230; homosexuality and gay marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: No Way</title>
		<link>http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/11/19/i-dont-like-microsoft/#comment-33341</link>
		<dc:creator>No Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really a shame.  This man is a Christian but, in my opinion, his actions are not those we would expect from Christ.  (Go ahead with the no real Christians stuff if you must).

According to the Bible homosexuality is a sin.  But wait a minute, don't go crazy over this statement yet.  You see, the woman that had cheated on her husband and was about to be stoned to death was an adulterer, a sinner.  Yet Jesus had compassion for her.  Would this man and his cohorts have had passion for her?  I doubt it.

Paul, when we was known as Saul, was a murderer of Christians.  Yet God found it within his power to forgive Paul - to guide and love him.  Peter lied about knowing Christ and God still used him to build the faith.  Both of these sins are mentioned directly in the Ten Commandments but they were forgiven.

Homosexuality is a sin (though not in the Ten Commandments) but pastor chooses to judge instead of love. He is more interested in religion as law than he is in what Christ taught.  He would rather condemn than forgive and love.  He is the modern day equivalent of the religious leaders that had Christ put to death.

He has decided that a homosexual's sin is somehow worse than his own sin even though he should believe that there are no degrees of sin, all sin leads to "death".

Many homosexuals find it difficult to hide there sexual orientation (not that they should have to).  That said, I would find it very facinating to see this man have to walk around with his own sins placed so prominently before the world.  If he had a shirt that named every sin he is in bondage to and his false image were stripped away, maybe then he would have compassion for others.

As a Christian I feel compelled to apologize for the pain and division this man is causing, to pray for him, and to ask your forgiveness as we are all, including Christians, sinners none-the-less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really a shame.  This man is a Christian but, in my opinion, his actions are not those we would expect from Christ.  (Go ahead with the no real Christians stuff if you must).</p>
<p>According to the Bible homosexuality is a sin.  But wait a minute, don&#8217;t go crazy over this statement yet.  You see, the woman that had cheated on her husband and was about to be stoned to death was an adulterer, a sinner.  Yet Jesus had compassion for her.  Would this man and his cohorts have had passion for her?  I doubt it.</p>
<p>Paul, when we was known as Saul, was a murderer of Christians.  Yet God found it within his power to forgive Paul - to guide and love him.  Peter lied about knowing Christ and God still used him to build the faith.  Both of these sins are mentioned directly in the Ten Commandments but they were forgiven.</p>
<p>Homosexuality is a sin (though not in the Ten Commandments) but pastor chooses to judge instead of love. He is more interested in religion as law than he is in what Christ taught.  He would rather condemn than forgive and love.  He is the modern day equivalent of the religious leaders that had Christ put to death.</p>
<p>He has decided that a homosexual&#8217;s sin is somehow worse than his own sin even though he should believe that there are no degrees of sin, all sin leads to &#8220;death&#8221;.</p>
<p>Many homosexuals find it difficult to hide there sexual orientation (not that they should have to).  That said, I would find it very facinating to see this man have to walk around with his own sins placed so prominently before the world.  If he had a shirt that named every sin he is in bondage to and his false image were stripped away, maybe then he would have compassion for others.</p>
<p>As a Christian I feel compelled to apologize for the pain and division this man is causing, to pray for him, and to ask your forgiveness as we are all, including Christians, sinners none-the-less.</p>
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