From this news article:
Meanwhile a group of hardline Pakistani Muslim clerics bestowed a religious title on Osama bin Laden as a tit-for-tat revenge for the slight. The Pakistan Ulema Council has given bin Laden the title “Saifullah”, or sword of Allah.
“If a blasphemer can be given the title ‘Sir’ by the West despite the fact he’s hurt the feelings of Muslims, then a mujahid who has been fighting for Islam against the Russians, Americans and British must be given the lofty title of Islam, Saifullah,” Tahir Ashrafi, the council’s chairman, was quoted by a foreign news agency, as saying.
Riiight. Comparing a writer and the “crime” of “blasphemy” (or “hurt feelings”) to a terrorist mass murderer responsible for the deaths of thousands1. Great going, guys. Very mature of you. Wonderful sense of perspective.
- not to mention Bush’s re-election, itself responsible for thousands more, both in Iraq and as a result of the lack of stem cell research [↩]
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Sometimes people have to die. IMO:
First are those that want to kill others who are not trying to kill them.
Second are those that wish to control others who are not trying to control or kill them.
If they think people should die for their beliefs, then they are right, line them up.
Sorry mate, the Americans are the ones responsible for Bush’s re-election (or was that just Diebold?).
Please don’t put the blame at Osama’s feet, as that would excuse the spin machine — and those Americans who fell for it.
Still, Bush wouldn’t be there since 2004, and there would have been no Iraq war, if it wasn’t for 9/11. It was the best thing that could have happened to him.
O’Really? You’re mixing up all that “p –> q” && “!p –> ?” crap.
I’d venture he’d^W his spin machice would find something else.
[quote post="276"]Sorry mate, the Americans are the ones responsible for Bush’s re-election[/quote]
In the interest of not stereotyping, please remember that nearly half of the US DID NOT vote for Bush. I was one of those. If I could have prevented his reelection (or even his original election) I would have. My shame is in living in a country where he could be reelected.
Believe what you will. I still remember how a “lame”, unpopular president who got into power through a dubious election and a court decision suddenly turned into a “hero” and “our savior”.
Anyway, all of this is offtopic… it was just a small aside in my post.
I think its kind of amusing that they believe honoring Osama will get back at England. Anyone who hates Osama won’t care if he’s honored by other fanatical Islamists. It’s like someone getting promoted in the KKK.
[quote comment="26535"][quote post="276"]Sorry mate, the Americans are the ones responsible for Bush’s re-election[/quote]
In the interest of not stereotyping, please remember that nearly half of the US DID NOT vote for Bush. I was one of those. If I could have prevented his reelection (or even his original election) I would have. My shame is in living in a country where he could be reelected.[/quote]
You’re completely correct. I wasn’t careful enough, and should have remembered how the spin machine turned those 51% into “a clear mandate” etc.
The biggest problem is the amount of noise which comes from that side of the fence. The ones who didn’t vote for the bitch are quiet. I never really bought that “I didn’t vote for him, but he’s our President” so-called logic anyway.
[quote comment="26536"]Believe what you will. I still remember how a “lame”, unpopular president who got into power through a dubious election and a court decision suddenly turned into a “hero” and “our savior”.
Anyway, all of this is offtopic… it was just a small aside in my post. :)[/quote]
The reason why I came here from the feed is that battling (misdirection && misplaced responsibility) is your usual bailiwick
And I know you know that “hero” could come from elsewhere. If not for the Twin Towers Missile Incident, other spins would be found.
PS: no nested quotes?
[quote post="276"]I never really bought that “I didn’t vote for him, but he’s our President” so-called logic anyway.[/quote]
I don’t buy that one either. Personally, I like the following philosophy much better:
“When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
Of course, I am sure that is soon to be banned over here - George or Dick wouldn’t want the peasants to get any ideas.
Back on topic - I just find it amusing that for all of their outrage over Rushdie’s “Satanic Verses” he is still around and kicking to receive the knighthood. Let’s see if the same can be said for Osama in 15 years.
[quote comment="26535"][quote post="276"]Sorry mate, the Americans are the ones responsible for Bush’s re-election[/quote]
In the interest of not stereotyping, please remember that nearly half of the US DID NOT vote for Bush. I was one of those. If I could have prevented his reelection (or even his original election) I would have. My shame is in living in a country where he could be reelected.[/quote]
Not enough people vote (OK, I didn’t…but I’m not 18 yet). I say it should be compulsory to vote, like Australia.
No way, if you don’t vote in Australia you get fined.
If I don’t want to vote I shouldn’t have to. As I don’t believe it would help either way. It didn’t with Bush.
You’ve just been tagged with a blog meme: http://tinyurl.com/3dkf7g
Enjoy!
One indication of a free country is that it’s people are not forced to vote!
By the way, Pedro, I’m tagging you.
Well is my face red! Twice!
First of all, I’ve always been on a high horse about people who write “it’s” instead of “its” and vice versa … and there I’VE done it above!
Secondly, I completely missed Michael’s tag right before mine. Consider yourself still tagged, though.