If the christian God is real, then I think he’s a failure and he lacks true love and commonsense. I think if God were a human he would be considered unbalanced. Why? well I could go on, but the idea of hell for eternity? If its as bad as they I certainly do not believe I deserve to go there or most people…Maybe Hitler would deserve a few thosands years, but forever??

Tell your “God” to be born gay in this world with his “word” and his “people”.

Tell Jesus to live with the people he created.

Then get back to me.

Somehow, I think that what is true is true.

STILL WAITING

thanks.

Sigh…
So, what you’re saying is that God, even though he is omnipotent and perfect, had to incarnate as a human and sacrifice himself, just so he could persuade himself to forgive us from being his imperfect creations, and save us from the hell he created?

Funny, I’m not omnipotent, and can forgive other people without going through all that. Does it mean I’m better than God?

Really… it’s amazing how little (if at all) most Christians ever think about their own beliefs. The idea that God couldn’t “save” us without first sacrificing his son (who is also himself) doesn’t survive a minute of thinking… and, yet, millions believe in it unquestioningly.

By the way, all of this is offtopic. If you want to discuss something unrelated to a post, please use the forum.

I don’t hate God, but I’ve suffered an insane amount pretty much my whole life and I’ve had lots of hateful thoughts about God combined with
bad feelings which I can’t necesarily help.

I’ve been a christian whole life and feel like I’m worst off than most. I felt religion and spirituality had alot to do with my pain (combined with my anxious shitty mental disposition) so have often felt let down and bitter, feeling like religion f’ked me up, but God did nothing to help, feeling like would have been better if never thought about spiritual, religious things relating to God.

Obviously life isn’t fair, one might say as great as God is, he isn’t perfect? I mean who decided to make this earth-even God got mad with it and wiped it out with a flood (in the Bible).

I also feel frustrated with the thought of people going to hell, I mean God (and parents having sex) makes us (much of who we are is not what we choose), how can God condemn his own creation at it’s expense; mind, body, spirit and environment we’re raised in? And what about a bit more responsibility for looking after your creation, I mean what do they call a father who doesn’t look after his kids; dead beat dad? or someone who doesn’t look after their pets? Oh but God gave us free will(did I ask for it?), well my free will is to not have free will if that helps me have a life.

It’s says in bible that God so loved the world that he gave his only son, I’m not disagreeing, but I also think he had a obligation to save us from sin or ultimately hell (God can’t stand sin being so holy). Ok he can’t stand sin so the unsaved soul doesn’t get to go to heaven with him, but wouldn’t it be more loving to not make hell such a horrid place, unless your like an evil tormenting demon. I honestly don’t think Ive ever done anything to deserve eternal burning flames of hell, and if I was a horrible person (honestly how much control does a person have over the type of person they become? -being a product of genes and environment - a born psychotic or abused as a child?).

Maybe their should be like an in between house, where don’t live in heaven or hell, or maybe could just obliterate the unsaved soul so that cease to exist I know what I’d prefer if not going to heaven.

I’m not saying God isn’t good, but right now i feel somewhere along the line that God did the deed and we’re paying for it. But if you really want to hate someone hate Satan, according to the bible his messing things up was very deliberate and selfish unlike the loving God.

I think that’s a different kind of “hatred”.

What I do hate is religion. It’s been far more a source of evil than good throughout history, and the world would be far better off without it.