Comments on: The Blasphemy Challenge http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:27:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Micah http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-43688 Micah Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:20:08 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-43688 I'm sorry I didn't catch this one earlier. "But, please, elucidate me. How can I properly blaspheme the Holy Spirit?" - Pedro What Jesus says in the context, is that you can reasonably disagree with him or God, and it's understandable. But if you see the miracles (ie, the holy spirit at work), and ignore those, you're in trouble. "Blaspheming the holy spirit", in context, means SEEING Jesus' miracles and denying that they came from God. Since none of us have seen Jesus work miracles on the earth, none of us can blaspheme the holy spirit. You or I might reasonably think that Jesus was a fraud, and according to Jesus, that's understandable. But people who SAW him raise the dead have no excuse for not believing. -micah I’m sorry I didn’t catch this one earlier.

“But, please, elucidate me. How can I properly blaspheme the Holy Spirit?” - Pedro

What Jesus says in the context, is that you can reasonably disagree with him or God, and it’s understandable. But if you see the miracles (ie, the holy spirit at work), and ignore those, you’re in trouble.

“Blaspheming the holy spirit”, in context, means SEEING Jesus’ miracles and denying that they came from God.

Since none of us have seen Jesus work miracles on the earth, none of us can blaspheme the holy spirit.

You or I might reasonably think that Jesus was a fraud, and according to Jesus, that’s understandable. But people who SAW him raise the dead have no excuse for not believing.

-micah

]]> By: Pedro Timóteo http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-40126 Pedro Timóteo Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:09:09 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-40126 <blockquote> Pedro Satans gonna a greet you , kiss you and finally ask you to lick his arse </blockquote> Delete it? Naaah... as a commenter said <a href="http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/03/belaboring-the-obvious.html#comments" rel="nofollow">here</a>: <blockquote>An extremely belligerent fundie imposed himself on a thread I was already in, and immediately started attacking anyone and everyone with insults flying all over the place. As usual, I tried several normally successful methods of persuasion to get him to chill out, all to no avail. After awhile, I realized the guy was completely impervious to reason and evidence. Not only that, but he made sure to include loads of insults in every post he made. So I knew I wouldn't be able to get through to him. But I kept going - and am still going - figuring that his belligerence is bad publicity for his religion. I figure that anyone who stumbles upon his lunatic ravings will be seriously turned off. And that may be enough to nudge some people away from Christianity, where logical arguments and evidence might not be. So I continue on, for the benefit of the lurkers. </blockquote> :)

Pedro Satans gonna a greet you , kiss you and finally ask you to lick his arse

Delete it? Naaah… as a commenter said here:

An extremely belligerent fundie imposed himself on a thread I was already in, and immediately started attacking anyone and everyone with insults flying all over the place. As usual, I tried several normally successful methods of persuasion to get him to chill out, all to no avail. After awhile, I realized the guy was completely impervious to reason and evidence. Not only that, but he made sure to include loads of insults in every post he made. So I knew I wouldn’t be able to get through to him. But I kept going - and am still going - figuring that his belligerence is bad publicity for his religion. I figure that anyone who stumbles upon his lunatic ravings will be seriously turned off. And that may be enough to nudge some people away from Christianity, where logical arguments and evidence might not be. So I continue on, for the benefit of the lurkers.

:)

]]> By: Bruce http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-40125 Bruce Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:58:03 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-40125 Pedro Satans gonna a greet you , kiss you and finally ask you to lick his arse Pedro Satans gonna a greet you , kiss you and finally ask you to lick his arse

]]> By: Bea http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-30537 Bea Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:50:31 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-30537 And Im sorry if I offended you. And Im sorry if I offended you.

]]> By: Bea http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-30536 Bea Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:48:08 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-30536 That wasnt an insult by the way...merely a truthful comparison. That wasnt an insult by the way…merely a truthful comparison.

]]> By: Bea http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-29916 Bea Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:09:25 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-29916 [quote post="198"]I’ve never understood this. How can Jesus be all love if there are things he refuses to forgive. I love my friends, but I wouldn’t turn my back on them if one day they started having doubts about how amazingly awesome I am. And I certainly wouldn’t send them to a place of eternal, unquenchable flame so thar they could experience the unpleasant sensation of having their flesh burn for all eternity. Where is the love there? Does that mean I’m a more forgiving person than God?[/quote] No You are not a more forgiving person than God. So what your friends may deny your awesome. How is that even comparable to denying God. Your just you...and God is God. You certainly do not deserve the praise and honor that he does. And try forgiving billions of people for every sin. Not one friend for denying you. He has compassion. <em>[insult removed by the administrator - please don't abuse other commenters here. Pedro]</em> [quote post="198"]I’ve never understood this. How can Jesus be all love if there are things he refuses to forgive. I love my friends, but I wouldn’t turn my back on them if one day they started having doubts about how amazingly awesome I am. And I certainly wouldn’t send them to a place of eternal, unquenchable flame so thar they could experience the unpleasant sensation of having their flesh burn for all eternity. Where is the love there? Does that mean I’m a more forgiving person than God?[/quote]
No You are not a more forgiving person than God.

So what your friends may deny your awesome. How is that even comparable to denying God. Your just you…and God is God. You certainly do not deserve the praise and honor that he does. And try forgiving billions of people for every sin. Not one friend for denying you. He has compassion. [insult removed by the administrator - please don't abuse other commenters here. Pedro]

]]> By: Joe http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-14931 Joe Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:51:22 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-14931 [quote comment="9306"] If you read Jesus' statements about those who deny Him (like the pharisees that frequently opposed Him), it is clear to anyone who can has even minimal intelligence that Jesus is all Love, but He doesn't put up with denying His deity. Go ahead and read His words...[/quote]I've never understood this. How can Jesus be all love if there are things he refuses to forgive. I love my friends, but I wouldn't turn my back on them if one day they started having doubts about how amazingly awesome I am. And I certainly wouldn't send them to a place of eternal, unquenchable flame so thar they could experience the unpleasant sensation of having their flesh burn for all eternity. Where is the love there? Does that mean I'm a more forgiving person than God? [quote comment="9306"]
If you read Jesus’ statements about those who deny Him (like the pharisees that frequently opposed Him), it is clear to anyone who can has even minimal intelligence that Jesus is all Love, but He doesn’t put up with denying His deity. Go ahead and read His words…[/quote]I’ve never understood this. How can Jesus be all love if there are things he refuses to forgive. I love my friends, but I wouldn’t turn my back on them if one day they started having doubts about how amazingly awesome I am. And I certainly wouldn’t send them to a place of eternal, unquenchable flame so thar they could experience the unpleasant sensation of having their flesh burn for all eternity. Where is the love there? Does that mean I’m a more forgiving person than God?

]]> By: Art http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-9306 Art Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:04:22 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-9306 It's real simple... blaspheming the Holy Spirit is accomplished by denying that Jesus Christ is the one and only Son of God - God in the flesh. If you deny Jesus ever existing or that He is the Christ, then I'm afraid you have doomed yourself to eternal separation from God (rather than to be with God in heaven). You can't have it your way and think that God is simply going to let you get away with your contempt for Him because you would like to think that He is son kind of nice wussy guy. If you read Jesus' statements about those who deny Him (like the pharisees that frequently opposed Him), it is clear to anyone who can has even minimal intelligence that Jesus is all Love, but He doesn't put up with denying His deity. Go ahead and read His words... It’s real simple… blaspheming the Holy Spirit is accomplished by denying that Jesus Christ is the one and only Son of God - God in the flesh. If you deny Jesus ever existing or that He is the Christ, then I’m afraid you have doomed yourself to eternal separation from God (rather than to be with God in heaven). You can’t have it your way and think that God is simply going to let you get away with your contempt for Him because you would like to think that He is son kind of nice wussy guy.

If you read Jesus’ statements about those who deny Him (like the pharisees that frequently opposed Him), it is clear to anyone who can has even minimal intelligence that Jesus is all Love, but He doesn’t put up with denying His deity. Go ahead and read His words…

]]> By: Pedro Timóteo http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-6877 Pedro Timóteo Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:40:17 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-6877 [quote comment="6876"]Because of a lack of understanding the context, you have (unfortunately?) not succeeded in your goal of blaspheming the holy Spirit. Sorry.[/quote] I understand what I <b>read</b>. I have no way to travel back in time and ask Jesus (if he really existed) what he really meant (if he really said that). But, please, elucidate me. How can I properly blaspheme the Holy Spirit? [quote comment="6876"]Because of a lack of understanding the context, you have (unfortunately?) not succeeded in your goal of blaspheming the holy Spirit. Sorry.[/quote]

I understand what I read. I have no way to travel back in time and ask Jesus (if he really existed) what he really meant (if he really said that).

But, please, elucidate me. How can I properly blaspheme the Holy Spirit?

]]> By: Micah Redding http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-6876 Micah Redding Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:36:01 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-6876 Because of a lack of understanding the context, you have (unfortunately?) not succeeded in your goal of blaspheming the holy Spirit. Sorry. -micah http://emergentchristian.blogspot.com/ Because of a lack of understanding the context, you have (unfortunately?) not succeeded in your goal of blaspheming the holy Spirit. Sorry.

-micah
http://emergentchristian.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Kren http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-6711 Kren Sat, 13 Jan 2007 05:40:29 +0000 http://www.wayofthemind.org/2007/01/12/the-blasphemy-challenge/#comment-6711 I've already done that a few times in my life. But I won't believe what someone said Mark said Jesus said anyway. I’ve already done that a few times in my life.
But I won’t believe what someone said Mark said Jesus said anyway.

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