Comments on: People and their stated goals

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Making the world a worse place: the ‘Rapture-Ready’ Christians — Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:09:26 +0000

[...] as more devout, with different priorities, but, since they say the words “Jesus Christ” so often, people are reticent to say that they’re actually a [...]

By: The Bush administration’s attack on privacy » The Tlog

The Bush administration’s attack on privacy » The Tlog — Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:06:25 +0000

[...] Of course, the government doesn’t say it’s attacking privacy. It says it’s doing it “for the children”. In another blog of mine, I have written an article called People and they stated goals. It’s about how, by saying you’re doing something (whatever it is) for some noble cause, it apparently excuses anything you do, and demonizes anyone who criticizes you. That’s what’s happening here: Jack Samad, senior vice president for the National Coalition for Protection of Children and Families, a Cincinnati, Ohio-based advocacy group, said search engines should be willing to help the Bush administration defend the law. [...]

By: The Bush administration’s attack on privacy » Way of the Mind

The Bush administration’s attack on privacy » Way of the Mind — Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:51:47 +0000

[...] Of course, the government doesn’t say it’s attacking privacy. It says it’s doing it “for the children”. Remember People and they stated goals? How, by saying you’re doing something (whatever it is) for some noble cause, it apparently excuses anything you do, and demonizes anyone who criticizes you? That’s what’s happening here: Jack Samad, senior vice president for the National Coalition for Protection of Children and Families, a Cincinnati, Ohio-based advocacy group, said search engines should be willing to help the Bush administration defend the law. [...]

By: shyloh

shyloh — Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:12:44 +0000

From my understanding and knowledge we are a product of our environment. Children and
even adults will imitate what they see. Some will take on the trait of killing and some don’t
Not sure why that is. But I have seen it enough times to realize we don’t think about these
kinds of things till it is to last. Not even saying it is good or bad. But there is always a
cause and effect.

Aloha..

By: Dehumanizer

Dehumanizer — Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:04:00 +0000

Please don’t assume things about me that you don’t know. Being rude isn’t a good idea either. I didn’t even say I was a gamer myself (though I am), or that I played violent games (rarely - though I will resist any attempt to ban them as another ignorant attempt to legislate morality.)

As to those studies, I’ve seen more stating otherwise. But, of course, when you want to prove a point, it’s easier to “count the hits and ignore the misses”.

Besides, those studies mention M-rated games (for 17 or older), being played by 13-15 year old teenagers. If you don’t follow the instructions on the box, you can’t complain, right?

By: Daedalus

Daedalus — Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:48:31 +0000

What the fuck is wrong with you that you want to fantasize about this type of violence anyway? You have to be a sick fuck to play these games in the first place.

Oh, and you want the links? Here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9013744/

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/10/051012082710.htm

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_56903

http://www.mindfully.org/Health/2005/Video-Games-Aggression19aug05.htm

I mean, come on. Have you heard of a google search?

By: Dehumanizer

Dehumanizer — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:40:03 +0000

Can you post links to those studies? Every single one I’ve seen says there’s no relation - and, besides, crime rates have been going down for years.

Anyway, the main point of this post isn’t really video games and violence, or censorship, or anything like that. It’s, instead, the common phenomenon of how a guy can say “I’m protecting children”, and he instantly becomes uncriticizable, because anyone who does so is “trying to harm children”… whether the guy is actually doing anything for children or not. You scream that you have a laudable goal, and anyone who criticizes you is against that goal.

By: J D Moore

J D Moore — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:36:27 +0000

“there’s no relation between video games and violence, several studies have already indicated”

I’m sorry - there IS empirical evidence to show that violent video games and media effects the brains of children, making them more apt to be violent. I have seen brain scans of kids after playing violent video games, there is a reduction in activity in the frontal lobe that persists for three days. Prolonged exposure to violent media has been shown to permanently effect the areas responsible for impulse control and judgement - making them malnourished. underdeveloped

It’s a bad interpretation to say that a study PROVED no link. Sceintific method states that you can not prove a negative hypothesis. You can have a hypothesis that states, “video games have a behavioral link to violence” and a particular study failed to prove that. To have a hypothesis that, “vidoegames do not have a link to violence” cannot be proven using scientific method. this is just not how research works in th real world.

A true statement is this, “some studies have failed to prove a link between video games and violence, while some studies have shown a link.”

I won’t argue the motivations or politics of the situation since I just don’t know the situation. I think both sides of th argument have abused science beyond all semblance of what could be reasonably considered “truth”.

By: Elektra

Elektra — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:42:28 +0000

You’re absolutely right. Some people just do everything with the main if not only goal of engrossing their bank account and get even more famous or just to be cover on magazines. That’s the old story of all the models that participate on world beauty contests always say their wish is to end war and have peace all over the world… words come easy. For achieving those goals they repeatedly use the same schemas like taking a position against violence by banishing violent games or cartoons and so on. Yeah, because as everybody knows the guilt of world’s violence is totally and absolutely due to TV and those games! Remember Quino’s sketch where one of the children says: “I’ll destroy my gun toy because I don’t want that no toy teaches me how to kill! I’d rather learn it on my own!” The interesting part is that it works! Always works because people mostly have short memories and don’t think! That’s the same reason why reality shows have the better audiences all over the world: People just don’t wanna think! Also they don’t know anything on Mathematics because negation of A implies B is not reciprocal.